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Atlanta based editorial music photographer, Zack Arias. |
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Mon , March 29th, 2010
Here is the official video of the shootout I did with fellow dorks photographers David Hobby and Joey L. What we all want to know is… Who won? Cheers, 61 Responses to “Gulf Photo Plus :: The Shootout with David Hobby and Joey L.”Leave a Reply |
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Who won? We did! We get to see how the three of you handled a crazy shoot with some crazy curve-balls thrown in there!
Well done you guys!
Thanks!
They never announced a winner? Well that’s no fun.
Great video Zack.
Joe ‘Cowell’ McNally…too funny and from now on I must remember not to use my Octabank…lol
Looked like alot of fun.
Cheers,
Glyn
IMHO- you won Mr. Arias, though Mr. Hobby did give you a good run for the money. Joey L to me provided a ‘cute’ stunt, but showed a lack of respect to the assignment I think. Beauty may be in the eye of the beerholder, but my thinking is he plain wasn’t up to the competitive nature of the assignment and time structure.
I agree you won zack. Joey L bailed.
At first I thought David Hobby was the winner. And to his credit, his idea was more interesting. However, the quality of light is just so superb with your image, I’ve got to give the award to ZA.
When I heard about this shootout, I got really excited to see what Joey L. would do… even just watching his entire process. His Ethiopia photos are jaw dropping.
Reminds me of how – in a different sorta way – Jack White interacted with jimmy Page and the Edge in the film “It Might Get Loud.”
Next year, I’d like to go and bring my old 110 film camera
I’ll call it a tie between you & David Hobby. Both images look similar. I liked David’s concept for the paparazzi and his creativity of using audience members and then using the optical slaves to trigger the camera flashes.
As you know, I’m a fan of shootouts (for obvious reasons). I think it’s a great learning experience and having that bit of pressure always brings out the best in us.
Great work by all.
Funny!
Nice
Here’s the kiss-up answer – WE won. Great to see how the three of you work. Cheers.
I liked how you handel the hwole thing.. you where calmer then David and Joey. but I’ll have to call this a tie between you and Dave .. as far as Joey goes .. I really like his work and everything, but the kid still a little too young and perhaps a bit immature..
Canceling my octobank order…..
Great post, I was waiting for this video, but did get a sneak peek on Youtube. Good job Zack, great photo, and interaction with the crowd.
Who would had thought that Joey being an amazing photographer can also be an amazing idiot. Might be the age I guess
Both were great shots but MikeScott said it best when he said “WE won” It’s all about learning right?
Now, if I was in attendance I would have been pretty pissed if I spent my hard earned money and time to watch Joey L bail like that. He may be a good photographer and all but I think he totally mismanaged his “stunt”, let audience members down and disrespected Zack and David. Very lame.
It had to be said…who’s with me?
Zach, you did a superb job. I like the back lighting idea; have to try it in my own pics …
I really learned a lot from both you and David Hobby.
Joey L is young and a …. He does try to somewhat apologize in his blog: http://www.joeyl.com/blog/
Nice work Zack!
As smart ass as Joey L was, I do think he made an interesting point. Spend some quality time with your models before you shoot them.
GREAT job Zack! I really like your shot.
Regarding Joey L >>> I would have preferred if he had taken the challenge seriously actually.
Great work Zach. I liked both shots of you and Hobby. Disappointing performance from Joey L, was he too good to participate?
My opinion is they all won. They all had a blast…
People speaking against Joey is sorta lame if you ask me. It was just to have fun, imo.
That’s just what he did.
We all know Zack, Hobby, and Joey can shoot. We don’t need a demo of that…
Great to watch all of you!
I think most people never really considered it a REAL competition.
Anyone who was interested in the shootout is probably a fan of all three of you guys.
I think a lot of us try to get out there and light/shoot photos of subjects quickly, and it was really refreshing to see pros going through the same process. It was almost relieving to see how you and david weren’t cool and collected completely. You were both sweating a little, but in the end you both pulled out great results.
I understand why joey did what he did. He didn’t want to compete, because he doesn’t believe there is a “best” photographer – he didn’t like the concept of competing for that title. Unfortunately, the stunt didn’t come off that funny.
It seemed really inconsiderate to the people who organized the event, to the models who showed up, to the audience who attended, and even to you/david to pull a prank like that.
Everyone else worked so hard – and his prank basically amounted to saying “this competition is stupid, and I don’t care about it!” That’s kindov a subtle insult to everyone who was enthusiastic about it…
He could have easily treated it like a teaching opportunity (like you and david) or just bowed out completely beforehand.
Anyway, great image!
Very cool Zack! I wish I could be in one of these events too someday. I have so many wacky ideas, but not a lot of gear. To have an endless supply of lighting equipment, beautiful models and a HUGE auditorium to pull it off in would be FUN!!! I hope I can shoot with you and Mr. McNally someday too. The other contestent was not familiar to me, but I’m going to go look him up. I don’t follow what everybody else is doing, I try to figure stuff out on my own. I think of lighting as painting with light and since I’m a painter, it’s a fun challenge in that respect. It looks like you had a blast out there and I hope that one day our paths will cross and we can show each other a thing or two…
–Chris
I thought Joey was a little rude at first…but I like how he seemed to just pay homage to David and Zack….it was kind of respectful in a weird way… I did find the thought process of David and Zack interesting…and even Joey…because he does have to get to know his subjects maybe a bit more by doing all of his cultural stuff.
I agree with the above comments. Joey kinda played it like a punk ass kid, if you ask me.
I am a huge fan of Joey’s work, but this was disrespectful, and really turns me away. Humorous, Yes..to some degree at first, but Cocky.
Really enjoy watching this vdo.
Great job!!!
Lol, I’m not sure why but when I searched for Zack Arias in google the first link was title “Order Viagra Online – Lowest Prices Guaranteed” but underneath it said http://www.zarias.com so I clicked and it was the right sight. I guess it might be a joke I haven’t read on your site yet, lol. Also great video, and great shot
Loved the contest !! Being able to see how you guys are reacting to the situation, was quite interesting. It was definitely a tie between you and DHobby. Now JoeyL .. He is talented youngster and I would have liked to see him take the challenge seriously instead of playing the cool dude card …
I liked Joey’s bit, saying that he didn’t take it ‘seriously’ is missing the point. The whole process is supposed to be fun, and his approach was the most creative by far.
David had it hard and took it more seriously.
I thought David put a scene with a story in it and using the public as standins and light sources and it worked well.
David is my winner.
Hey Zack, great video. I am big fan of yourself, Dave, Joe and Joey. Great stuff by all. Hope to meet you at PSW in Boston next year, I’m buying.
-Bob
(Boston)
Great stuff, really to see what you guys experienced, cheers for the share
Thanks for sharing the process. It was very fun to see it. I don’t think their is a winner. I like Strobist way of making a scenario out of it. Pretty clever. Joey, was a bold move and funny! Zack, you made me laugh the most with your approach and so true!
Cheers,
GT
Great meeting, great funny work of all of you, the best!
thans for sharing, will be nice to bee there too!
Antonio
What a great video. It was really cool to see everyone’s approach, especially with the time limit and pressure of a live audience.
Hilarious, good job guys on the pressure cooker shoot. I simple cracked up on the “Nikon has a really cool O-N feature”..
1 shot 2 people (the look…) priceless..
I really enjoyed the video if only for the humour and banter!
I would have loved to see Mr McNally in the shoot out too as he’d probably whip out about 50 SB900′s!
Joey L. won. Photography’s not about the gear, or the lighting, but about keeping it individual and unique. I know the video had cuts, but it seemed like also was a bit more acknowledging of the talent, what with the water and such. Can’t be easy to be on display in front of hundreds of people, especially after being referred to as Model A and B…
Awesome video, Zack! I was stressed just watching it LOL. Don’t know what I would do in that situation.
Both yours and Davids images are very compelling.
Not a joke. It’s a hack we are trying to fix.
I agree with the rest Zach tha audiance won we watched 3 of the best compete and I for 1 was entertained and enjoyed the experience immensly. Take Care Steve.
Welcome back.
**** If you want to have an opinion about someone that’s fine just don’t hide behind the Internet.
Mr. Suckssesful nailed it
Hello again! I think you and strobist did great..close call. i think Joey L, although i love his work, came off like a tool.just my opinion. anyway, i got a gear question for you. Going to be investing in what i thought was going to be a pair of pocket wizards…but after seeing review of raidopoppers, i’m not so sure. if you get a second, could you let me know what would you recomend?
thanks!
TOMMY
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Great Job Zack!
Gotta give it to you…although I did enjoy David’s idea…love how given the same situation three (err 2) photogs came up with different ideas.
Don’t know this Joey L from a hole in the wall, but think he could have handled his “prank” a bit better.
Seemed as though he tanked it as he couldn’t handle the pressure. Just my opinion…then again, I would never have the stones to do it in the first place! So who am I to talk?!?!
Good point Mr. Bean! Totally agree that you want to connect to Model A and Model B before a shoot
Definitely helps pull some chemistry into the shots.
Looking forward to having you to our studio in Cincy Zack…have a good spring!
Cheers,
Rick
I’m fan of the PW plus II’s. Those are the only ones I recommend.
I think I won by being exposed to that
Thanks for posting. Fun and insightful.
Is it about performance a show or about making good photography. I don’t get it …it seems the meaning of photography has been twisted. I always have thought photography as a medium to communicate, denounce or to express an idea or a concept.
IT IS NOT ABOUT PERFECT LIGHTING OR ILLUMINATE A TOILET WITH HUNDRED FLASHES AND MAKE NOT REFLECTION… IS ABOUT SAYING SOMETHING SPECIALLY IN THIS TIME WHE THE WORLD IS SO SHALLOW AND PEOPLE ARE TOO SUPERFICIAL…AN ARTIST SHOULD BE AN INDIVIDUAL WITHA LONG VISION WHO INTENT TO CREAT A NEW PATH AND NEW IDIEAS.
IS iIT A GAME?
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Personally, I have always been a fan of Joey L. but I think you all did really amazing…
Very very nice / wish i was there..
definitely need to be in Dubai next year
Great video overall but I do have to agree with the comments about joey acting like a punk. I love the kids work and was excited to see what he would do, but….. in the end his performance was pretty damn disappointing.
I don’t know if he’s the kind of photographer that takes an hour to set up his lights or maybe he wants to keep all of his tips secret?? Maybe he’s just got the arrogance of youth mixed with the celeb/hollywood attitude. Whatever the reason was, it would have been much cooler to actually participate and show us how talented he is by turning out some results under pressure like the old guys
David and Zack… you guys rock! Thank you for sharing with all of us and being down to earth.
-Alvah
Awesome video and very funny.
Great example of how easy to watch and listen to both David and Zack are.
The One light DVDs and the Strobist DVD’s are definitely some of the best money I have spent in photography, watched both sets multiple times and learn something new or get new ideas each time.
well i have not looked up yet to see who was the winner, but i think my general feeling is : everyone who took part in those workshops during the few days, and those who enjoy a laugh at the end.
Thought the idea of david with the paparazzis was fun, the light with zack was a cool idea, and well joeyL hmm, was put off totally thinking he was a young punk
and that shows that the problem is not about what we think, it’s about our expectations… i was thinking wow let’s see what joey can pull off there as i don’t know as much about him as i read from the others, and found myself disapointed because my expectations were not met.
But thereafter when reading his blogpost on it
http://www.joeyl.com/blog/nerd-fest-in-dubai/
i thought well he felt it that way, and did it in a fun way, it’s all about a concept. And explaining more about the workshops & final contest… I love his final shot with the team of all of you, simple, to the point, and making sure that all of the “behind the scenes” people are in it as they are essential.
So yep, based on that I hope you, david & joey had great fun teaching your workshops so that we have a “winner winner chicken dinner…” rolling
Well I think hammering Joey is lame. Having met both him and Zack in Australia, I can tell you that they are both AMAZING! I saw Joey shoot under pressure, with two models in 10 mins, and his sooc was phenominal! He could have done it easily, but going by the last comment on this video, was this at the end of 6 days of teaching??? Sorry but I would not have wanted to do that, and Joey IS YOUNG…isn’t that one of the things we admire and envy about him??? It’s not a crime.
When I can shoot as well as any of these guys, then I’ll post feel free to offer a negative opinion.
Haven’t read on Joey’s blog, but he really is one of the nicest, coolest, easiest guys to be around, and super super talented…a genius with the camera. I also think that one of the reasons he gets the images he does, is because he takes time to know his subjects.
He doesnt’ need defending…but neither does he deserve the bashing.
Loved all the shoots!
Guys,
I have a question about the their shoot.
How can they instanteanously display the photos in the large screen while they we’re shooting?
Thanks a lot!
Charley – it’s called “shooting tethered”. You connect your camera via USB to a computer and use capture software to download straight from camera. Nikon and Canon each have apps for this as do 3rd parties.
Cheers,
Zack
i’m also a big fan of joey L.. but for “me” what he did is disrespect to the audience..
ZA and dave wouldnt mind it.. but the people who’s expecting.. hoping to learn something.. the people who pay some money for that..
it’s like, you went to a G3 concert and watched steve vai just broke his guitar and not even play any piece..
just my opinion (i just put my self to one of the audience)